Elissa: It’s not that she wasn’t interested in opening up to other people, I think it was just more like she just wasn’t used to it. The thing about Kaitlyn is, when she got engaged to Ethan, we were all really happy for her. I mean we were just, it’s like we just totally knew that Ethan was the guy for her. It was so obvious. But then he turned out to be a total liar and she was just devastated. Just devastated. We all were. Devastated.
Arturo: She, uh, she’s your friend?
Elissa: Kaitlyn? No, no. She’s on The Bachelor.